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		<title>By: Risto H. Kurppa</title>
		<link>http://risto.kurppa.fi/blog/2009/11/ubuntu-membership-emea-regional-board-meeting/comment-page-1/#comment-823</link>
		<dc:creator>Risto H. Kurppa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 06:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right, not all activities are easily convertable into numbers in the internet.

As they said, if you organize events off-line, having a list of those is good but having photos from the events is better. And if one is a community leader, I&#039;d hope he&#039;d be in touch with other community leaders (on-line :( and this way gain trust so that they can cheer him. Or people working for him - I would trust if someone gets cheers from say 5 people, and if 1-3 join the meeting to make sure his work is appreciated. There is always the option of joining the meeting and saying &#039;this guy didn&#039;t do what he claims he&#039;s doing&#039;. 

And well, then there&#039;s again Code of Conduct and leadership CoC that should make you play fair.

I&#039;m sure there are members who have not done much to become members, maybe even some who&#039;ve cheated in the application process. It&#039;s sad, but no system is perfect so some procentage of &#039;wrong members&#039; must be accepted.

To cut it short, if one does a good job, documents it on the wiki and gets cheers from other people, the membership shouldn&#039;t be a problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, not all activities are easily convertable into numbers in the internet.</p>
<p>As they said, if you organize events off-line, having a list of those is good but having photos from the events is better. And if one is a community leader, I&#8217;d hope he&#8217;d be in touch with other community leaders (on-line :( and this way gain trust so that they can cheer him. Or people working for him &#8211; I would trust if someone gets cheers from say 5 people, and if 1-3 join the meeting to make sure his work is appreciated. There is always the option of joining the meeting and saying &#8216;this guy didn&#8217;t do what he claims he&#8217;s doing&#8217;. </p>
<p>And well, then there&#8217;s again Code of Conduct and leadership CoC that should make you play fair.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure there are members who have not done much to become members, maybe even some who&#8217;ve cheated in the application process. It&#8217;s sad, but no system is perfect so some procentage of &#8216;wrong members&#8217; must be accepted.</p>
<p>To cut it short, if one does a good job, documents it on the wiki and gets cheers from other people, the membership shouldn&#8217;t be a problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrey Mavlyanov</title>
		<link>http://risto.kurppa.fi/blog/2009/11/ubuntu-membership-emea-regional-board-meeting/comment-page-1/#comment-822</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrey Mavlyanov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 23:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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The only thing is a real proof - the cheers from the community. But what to do if you&#039;re a leader of such community? Who do ask those cheers? Can board trust the cheers from people who is under someone who want to be counted as ubuntu member?</description>
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<p>The only thing is a real proof &#8211; the cheers from the community. But what to do if you&#8217;re a leader of such community? Who do ask those cheers? Can board trust the cheers from people who is under someone who want to be counted as ubuntu member?</p>
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